Interview · moment 14 of 14
Tim and Ray Run for President
from Living on the Edge of Death · #112
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6 minGuest
A bit imagining Tim and Ray as president and VP, becoming marginalized despotic strongmen fighting off gun-toting children at the White House, tying back into Trump's physical appearance and self-image as a mirror for the country.
- 54:13Tim argues that the underpinnings of society they discuss are based on actual documented CIA and government actions, not unfounded conspiracy.
- 54:44The system operates slowly through competing power factions, making pure altruism impossible without getting dirty.
- 55:34Kennedy was a complicated figure—better than Johnson, but an inveterate addict and philanderer.
- 56:03Johnson actually accomplished more for Black people, minorities, and women because he knew how to leverage power and play the political game.
- 56:58Kennedy and Trump both thrived by taking on every institution at once, lining them up and knocking them down.
- 57:26Tim and Ray wonder how they'll govern when they become president.
- 57:41They'll be marginalized and isolated quickly, forced to choose between accepting it or turning the military into their own despotic dictatorship.
- 58:17Tim suspects he and Ray would both get assassinated at once.
- 58:33Enemies would use any tactic to eliminate them—throwing armed children over the White House fence, turning the Easter egg hunt into a gang war.
- 59:00Trump is a gross, chubby, paunchy man, but he's rich and people know it, unlike Tim and Ray, who represent what the country actually is—a mirror most people don't want to look into.