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Money vs. Respect in Comedy

from Montreal Mama · #107

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5 min

Tim and Ray discuss the tradeoff between taking the 'shortcut' to money/fame via viral fame versus earning respect through years in the stand-up trenches, using Kevin Hart and Southern Mama as contrasting examples, and riff on New York comedy snobbery and artistic standards (Mozart vs. lute players).

In this bit8 moments
  • 16:31Tim wishes he and Red Com could have written Southern Mama's set before he bombed at a showcase.
  • 17:02Chris Redd confronts Southern Mama for bombing and then lecturing everyone about comedy.
  • 17:39The core trade-off: you can pursue money or respect in comedy, but not both without putting in years.
  • 18:36Tim advises taking the money and house over respect—most comedians with respect have neither.
  • 19:14Nothing is ever enough for anyone; people with fanbases and followers still want more.
  • 19:58Comedians who succeed quickly think they're supposed to ascend without ever being told they suck.
  • 20:28New York has to be the place that says no, that maintains taste even when a hundred thousand people say someone's great.
  • 21:02There's a clear distinction between the greatest comedians and very popular ones—like the difference between Mozart and a lute player.
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Richard PryorKevin HartChris ReddSouthern mama

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