Episode 106 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Not A Legal Expert
Jul 26, 2018 · 1:00:13 · 15 segments, 117 moments indexed
- 1 min
Cold Open: Flying Solo, Tim in Montreal
#Ray Kump opens the show alone, explaining Tim Dillon is at the Montreal Comedy Festival without him, and jokes about feeling like he's throwing himself a lonely dinner party at the new studio's kitchen table.
2moments
- 0:28Ray Kump asks which camera to look at for the cold open
- 0:50Tim is off gallivanting north of the border at the Montreal Comedy Festival
- 2 min
James Gunn Fired Over Old Pedophile Tweets
#Ray riffs on Disney firing James Gunn for old tweets, arguing it's what happens when audiences worship corporate franchises like Star Wars and Marvel instead of growing up.
7moments
- 1:20Tim sits alone at a table like he's throwing himself a dinner party, feeling odd because his wife is with someone who delivers meat.
- 1:36James Gunn, director of Guardians of the Galaxy, fired by Disney for old tweets about pedophilia from 2002.
- 1:55Tim argues this is what happens when you sell your soul to corporations instead of blaming free speech or politics.
- 2:08People care more about Marvel movies, Star Wars, and Harry Potter than about the strings corporations pull.
- 2:27No one should care about a 50-year-old movie being resurrected or who becomes the new Jedi master.
- 2:40Tim tells the audience to grow up and stop supporting Disney, which gets leverage over people this way.
- 2:51Disney is only big because audiences made Marvel and Star Wars profitable by refusing to mature beyond franchises.
- 3 min
Mike Cernovich's Alt-Right Witch Hunt
#Ray explains how alt-right operator Mike Cernovich led the campaign against Gunn and also went after Dan Harmon for an old Dexter parody pilot and Michael Ian Black, pointing out the hypocrisy of free-speech advocates policing jokes.
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- 3:23Mike Cernovich is leading a campaign against alt-right figures, going after James Gunn and getting him fired.
- 3:57Cernovich also targeted Dan Harmon over a 2009 Dexter parody pilot where the character rapes rapists.
- 4:31Tim pitches the premise as a good pilot idea: a rapist going to Denny's to find victims in the bathroom.
- 4:48Michael Ian Black from The State also got caught in Cernovich's snare of old offensive material.
- 5:09Tim compares dark humor to Holocaust jokes and gallows humor, explaining why people joke about the worst things.
- 5:45Dark jokes made in morbid workplaces don't reflect actual behavior or intent toward the deceased.
Mike CernovichDan HarmonJames GunnMichael Ian Black
- 2 min
On Gallows Humor and Joking About Terrible Things
#Ray digresses into a defense of dark comedy, drawing on his own morgue job experience and citing Mel Brooks as proof that shock humor can be handled by skilled comedians, arguing edgy early jokes shouldn't define someone decades later.
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- 5:52Tim explains gallows humor as how people deal with terrible things.
- 6:15The initial reaction to dark jokes should be that this is terrible, then laughter—the comedian makes you laugh at it anyway.
- 6:29Dark comedy isn't the first thing a comedian should do; it requires skill developed over time.
- 6:44Mel Brooks was a genius because he had the talent to handle extreme subject matter like the Holocaust.
- 7:13Dark humor is cathartic and serves a reason—people use it to process terrible things.
- 7:24Being provocative for its own sake is sophomoric and immature, but often a step on the way to actual talent.
- 7:41Tim traces a path from a comedian joking about kids dying to eventually creating legitimate art like a movie with Charles Grodin.
- 7:59Comedians seek attention early by being shocking, get told they're wrong, then develop real skill—but shouldn't be held to those old jokes decades later.
Mel BrooksThe ProducersPatriceYoung FrankensteinCharles GrodinBlazing SaddlesBeethoven
- 5 min
Government Pedophilia Cover-ups and Cernovich's Own Rape Accusation
#Ray connects the Cernovich campaign to his own past investigations into the Franklin scandal, Johnny Gosch, and other real government pedophilia conspiracies, arguing none of the alt-right crowd actually wants to discuss the real cover-ups, while noting Cernovich himself was accused of rape.
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- 8:21Cernovich has been accused of rape in court.
- 8:48Rape kits shouldn't be thrown away after six months, even if convictions are hard to secure.
- 9:06Tim got entangled early in the show with legitimate government pedophilia cover-up conspiracies.
- 9:28Nick Bryant and others discussed the Franklin scandal, but mainstream figures ignore these stories.
- 10:02Like 9/11 with Vigilant Guardian, something screwy is clearly going on with government involvement in pedophilia.
- 10:40Calling this a witch hunt is too weak—it's actually McCarthyism with an overstated threat.
- 10:57The alt-right doesn't actually support freedom of speech; they use it as a weapon to bully people.
- 11:25No political faction genuinely supports unrestricted speech anymore.
- 12:08A top Catholic cardinal was raping both children and adult seminarians simultaneously.
- 12:31The religious right has no credibility lecturing about pedophiles when the Church harbors them routinely.
- 3 min
Disney's Hypocrisy and the Nostalgia Industrial Complex
#Ray argues Disney and its subsidiaries profit off pedophile-baiting child stardom while pretending to be offended by James Gunn's jokes, then pivots into a rant against nostalgia culture, sequels, and adults obsessed with Star Wars and childhood franchises.
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- 12:54Disney and Amazon's massive corporate resources allow them to avoid real risk and accountability.
- 13:41Hollywood has abandoned original culture in favor of endlessly recycling and reselling nostalgia—sequels, reboots, and merchandise.
- 14:14Tim argues The Force Awakens is a moronic rehash of the original Star Wars from 30 years prior.
- 14:42He questions why audiences find happiness in revisiting their childhood through recycled media instead of engaging with the present.
- 15:09Tim's own childhood was fine but unremarkable, so he doesn't understand the adult obsession with nostalgic IP.
- 15:28Rewatching childhood favorites reveals they're actually terrible—mostly cheap Korean animation from the 1980s.
- 4 min
Squiggle Porn, Tarkovsky, and the Death of the Standalone Story
#Ray recalls discovering masturbation via scrambled pay-per-view 'squiggle porn' as a kid, urges people to watch real art like Tarkovsky's Ivan's Childhood instead of Star Wars, and rants about how modern storytelling has become endless soap-opera-style sequels with no closure.
8moments
- 16:11Tim's first sexual experience was watching squiggle porn — scrambled pay-per-view with a Japanese girl in a bath — and learning by instinct in a chair.
- 17:01Growing up means abandoning childhood media obsessions and consuming art instead — read James Joyce, listen to Beethoven, watch Tarkovsky's Ivan's Childhood.
- 17:32Watching Star Wars repeatedly is retarded; the original 1977 film should have been seen once, and that's it.
- 17:50Everything is rehashed nostalgia now, though Kill Bill 2 remains fun — and Tarantino's original plan to make a third film 20 years later with Viveca Fox hunting Uma Thurman was cool when it was new.
- 18:24Sequels have no charm anymore because there's no suspense or mystery — audiences know exactly what franchises will deliver.
- 18:36Apocalypse Now doesn't need a sequel; the story ends and nobody cares what Sheen does when he gets home.
- 18:58Stories used to have a beginning, middle, and end — now everything is an ongoing saga like soap operas, which were always considered trash.
- 19:20Soap operas and telenovelas never won primetime Emmys or Oscars because everyone knew they were garbage; America turned that model into prestige television.
Star WarsApocalypse NowMarlon BrandoQuentin TarantinoIvan's ChildhoodStar TrekAndrei TarkovskyMartin Sheen+4 more
- 9 min
Demi Lovato's Overdose and Disney's Child Star Pipeline
#Ray reacts to news of Demi Lovato's hospitalization, pulling up her music and pictures on screen, and builds an extended riff on how Disney grooms child stars like Lovato, Britney Spears, and Justin Timberlake into sexualized pop stars, calling the whole system a 'virtual whorehouse.'
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- 19:41Tim expresses upset about Demi Lovato's overdose and questions whether the audience knows who she is.
- 21:39When did America start getting moralistic about pop stars getting fucked up?
- 22:06Disney pimped these kids to the public, then got mad at James Gunn for making jokes about bringing them James.
- 22:54There's something gross about having a young star and watching her sexually bloom as she grows up on camera.
- 23:28Disney picks objectively pretty kids and incubates them in front of audiences through sketch shows and variety programs.
- 24:10Without fail, child stars go from cute and bubbly to throwing their sexuality at the audience the moment they turn eighteen.
- 26:01James Gunn's tweet about children's books is compared to what Disney actually does—sexualizing kids in the system.
- 27:00It's like a virtual whorehouse: Disney shows people a young girl and invites them to imagine her sexuality.
- 27:55Disney spent years working on Britney Spears's appearance, bleaching her blonde, then released her sexuality when she turned eighteen.
- 28:30Tim argues they shouldn't get their stars out of the Disney pipeline—people should work harder to become celebrities instead.
- 28:58Tim feels bad for Demi Lovato; she's a victim in this system.
Demi LovatoDisneyBritney SpearsJustin TimberlakeJames GunnDan Harmon
- 5 min
Get Well Flowers for Demi and the License to Chill Card
#Ray decides to send Demi Lovato flowers, riffs with Howie about merch and a hypothetical 'skank bucks' card, then nostalgically recalls the Pepsi 'License to Chill' card promotion from a Long Island street fair as a kid.
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- 29:05Disney traps young girls in a cycle of exploitation, from child star to sexualized adult performer.
- 30:12Tim suggests sending flowers and armbands to Demi Lovato as a gesture of support.
- 31:16Pepsi's "License to Chill" card promotion at Argyle Park in Babylon, Long Island—a credit card given if you could taste the difference between Pepsi and Coke.
- 31:55The License to Chill booth made Tim feel legitimate, even though he probably just guessed right on the Pepsi versus Coke taste test.
- 32:26The show needs a similar promotion card, though Tim's pitch about distinguishing between different types of women goes off the rails.
- 33:04Brainstorming what the show's version of the card should be called—"License the Gas" or "License the Podcast."
- 33:53Reebok had some kind of habit card with about ten percent of the benefits, before the NSA tracked online activity.
- 34:12Tim misses the nostalgia of being a kid and getting excited about stupid promotions, like his Gameboy watch from a bag of Rice Krispies.
Demi LovatoPepsiBabylon, Long Island
- 4 min
Fixing His Credit and Buying Junk on Credit
#Ray tells stories about his childhood toys and threatening self-harm to stop bullies, then explains his ongoing effort to fix his bad credit score and his history of maxing out cards on a failed feature film and junk from sketchy credit-based shopping sites.
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- 34:31Tim got picked on in high school until he started threatening to kill himself, which earned him friends.
- 35:01Trying to fix his credit score, which hovers around 600 to 650.
- 35:16Tim never pays credit card bills and treated them as free money whenever new cards arrived.
- 35:32At 19, he maxed out a credit card on a pretentious indie film project about kids with foam swords defending a pizza place that never got finished.
- 36:20Now trying to get his finances and fitness in shape after years of debt silence.
- 36:38Credit Karma offers a sketchy financing service called GetItNow to buy used garbage like a $40 Tomb Raider game.
- 36:58The site sells trash—bedazzled foam items and flea market garbage—where nobody shops without using their credit system.
- 37:31He's playing Tomb Raider on PlayStation 4 now after playing Uncharted last year, comparing it to Indiana Jones but without the whip or fedora.
- 38:09Uncharted involves mowing people down with a K-47, not whipping turbaned guys like actual Indiana Jones.
- 38:23Marcus in the movie knows a thousand languages, will kill your mother, and has already found the Grail.
- 38:36Tim's stuck buying fucking garbage through the financing site to build credit.
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- 6 min
Howie's Dildo Purchase and High School Girlfriend Stories
#Ray and Howie riff on Howie buying his girlfriend a large black dildo on credit instead of flowers, leading into Ray's story about his cheating high school girlfriend and a graphic anecdote about his first blowjob.
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- 38:40Tim is buying sex toys online and paying them off in installments while trying to get a nicer apartment.
- 39:44He bought his high school girlfriend a large black dildo on his first credit card instead of flowers.
- 40:20Tim's philosophy: buy the bigger dildo first so she'll grow into it, like hand-me-downs for kids.
- 40:51During his first blowjob, the girl started fingering his ass, which he defends as not gay.
- 41:54His credit limit on that first card was probably a thousand dollars, which he spent on stupid stuff.
- 42:19Along with the dildo, he bought a water-spraying bow tie and whoopee cushions on credit.
- 43:20Tim describes himself as a giant nerd in high school batting way out of his league with his girlfriend.
- 43:33His girlfriend was fucking other guys toward the end of their relationship but didn't tell him about it.
- 44:01Tim explains that red underwear looks good on Black men and shows off what they have going on.
- 3 min
Ray discusses the newly surfaced Michael Cohen recording of Trump discussing paying off Karen McDougal, questioning why Cohen would record his own boss and speculating about attorney-client privilege and Trump's demeaning treatment of Cohen.
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- 44:22Michael Cohen recorded Trump negotiating payoffs to porn stars, apparently Karen McDougal.
- 44:56Tim questions why Cohen would make the recording in the first place—was it insurance against Trump backing out of the deal?
- 45:15Trump used to belittle Cohen constantly, calling him a dumb fuck and mocking his father.
- 45:30Tim compares the dynamic to his own relationship with Howie—negotiating while knowing you're being set up to be betrayed later.
- 46:00Tangent: Tim's chef friend texts him pictures of food mid-conversation, including wontons with American cheese in the soup.
- 46:33The recording of Trump and Cohen negotiating Karen McDougal's payoff may be legally admissible since New York is a one-party consent state.
- 46:58Attorney-client privilege typically doesn't apply when a lawyer is negotiating with a third party, only in confidential legal advice.
- 47:11Tim expresses bewilderment at the whole situation with the recording and its legal implications.
Donald TrumpMichael CohenKaren McDougal
- 9 min
Trump, Putin, and the Fascist Fatherland Fantasy
#Ray goes on an extended rant about why Trump supporters admire strongman leaders like Putin, unpacking the psychology of fascism, the myth of American rugged individualism (citing John Wayne and the book White Trash), and arguing Trump has abandoned even the pretense of the rule of law that Obama and Bush maintained.
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- 47:58Tim on Trump supporters' attraction to macho authoritarianism despite his weakness toward Putin.
- 48:29Complaining to Putin about the FBI makes you look weak to a man who murders rivals and invades countries.
- 49:12Trump's remaining supporters are people who want a certain level of fascism.
- 49:35Fascism appeals because it promises strength modeled on militarism, culture, and myth.
- 50:21Most people hear fascism and dismiss it as evil without understanding why supporters actually embrace it.
- 50:47Tim puzzles over the contradiction of wanting to be a tough guy while needing a father state.
- 51:25Germany calls their country the fatherland, not motherland, despite people coming out of women.
- 52:00American strength used to come from being left alone, not from patriarchal state control.
- 52:44Reading White Trash: America has always been a dumping ground for Europe's undesirables.
- 53:31The myth of John Wayne—tough, doesn't start fights but finishes them—represented what America pretended to be.
- 54:02Trump is objectively worse than Obama, who at least maintained the appearance of rule of law.
- 54:42The real problem is that Trump doesn't even keep up the appearance of rule of law or accountability.
- 55:48Trump is like giving up on a diet entirely instead of at least pretending you care about getting in shape.
Donald TrumpJohn WayneVladimir PutinBarack ObamafascismGeorge W. BushJordan Peterson
- 3 min
America's Military-Backed Economy Is a House of Cards
#Ray closes his rant arguing the entire US economy and dollar dominance is propped up by military force, and that Trump undermining NATO alliances threatens the only thing actually holding the fading empire together.
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- 56:25Tim on political organization: people expecting things to get better is delusional, regardless of who's in office.
- 56:48Every dominant culture eventually falls — the Dutch ran global trade and now nobody cares about them.
- 57:14Post-war America only seemed prosperous because of juke economics and screwing over other countries.
- 57:47The entire US economy is built on military power — the dollar is the world's de facto currency because it's backed by US military force.
- 58:20Trump's demand that NATO members pay their bills misses the point: other countries need to need America.
- 58:46The deal is simple: Americans get cheap consumer goods and the US gets to project military power globally.
- 59:00Tim argues Trump is disrupting this arrangement for the wrong reasons and will make things worse.
- 1 min
Ray runs through Tim Dillon's tour dates and website, plugs Ray Kump's own social media and Vice Sports appearance, and jokingly promotes Howie before signing off.
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- 59:15Tim Jay Dillon is performing in Montreal, Scotland, and Ireland.
- 59:36Ray Cump plugs his show and social media accounts.
- 59:50Tim jokes about Ray's misdirection attempt to get him to promote himself.