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Iran, Nukes, and Why Countries Want the Bomb
from Brighton Beach Memoirs · #96
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8 minTim and Ray dig into Trump pulling out of the Iran deal, why countries like Pakistan and North Korea get treated differently once they have nukes, and whether Trump's unpredictability is actually a diplomatic advantage with Kim Jong-un.
- 34:06Tim argues Iran wanting a nuclear weapon is logical self-defense given U.S. willingness to overthrow governments.
- 35:08Tim points out the U.S. is a permanent war economy with no incentive to stop creating threats.
- 35:22From Iran's perspective in 2003, watching America invade Iraq on false charges would make any country seek nuclear insurance.
- 35:57Pakistan has nuclear weapons and conducts extensive terrorism and intelligence work with Al Qaeda, yet the U.S. doesn't touch them.
- 37:06Tim credits Trump's unpredictability and perceived instability with achieving unexpected diplomatic movement with North Korea.
- 37:40An irrational leader with nuclear weapons is taken more seriously as a negotiating partner than a rational one.
- 38:39China's concern about losing influence over North Korea as the U.S. and South Korea conduct independent talks.
- 39:34China wants to slow North Korea's denuclearization timeline to maintain leverage in the dynamic.
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