rant · moment 9 of 13
Parlaying Pain for Future Gratification
from Brighton Beach Memoirs · #96
Audio-only archive episode — no video to seek.
6 minTim expands on how ambitious people (doctors, bankers, Scorsese) defer pleasure for future gains, and that most people wanting wealth don't actually want the grind that comes with it.
- 22:44Dottie Herman's mother was thrown out of a car and died in front of her at age four; she became the mother to her siblings.
- 23:05Dolly Lanza was rejected by 20 real estate companies early on, including being told things companies couldn't print today.
- 24:15Tim argues that humiliation and shame, while not healthy sources of drive, can motivate people to succeed at levels others won't.
- 25:01People with decent jobs could save aggressively and build significant nest eggs over 20 or 30 years if they lived modestly.
- 25:42Goldman Sachs traders might do blow and hire sex workers, but ambitious professionals across industries forego immediate pleasure for future gains.
- 26:02Doctors undergo grueling med school and 25-hour shifts, sacrificing enjoyment in their twenties for long-term gratification and security.
- 26:18Some people need the drive to build companies, employ others, and enrich themselves and their families—this ambition can stem from tragedy or people telling them they can't.
- 26:49Whether an ambitious person is happy doesn't matter; the questioner claiming they made a different choice freely is dishonest, because no one is happy anyway.
- 27:05Tim credits his success in comedy to genuinely enjoying the work—finding pleasure in creating and figuring things out despite the chaos and his own cynicism about it.
- 27:21Creating and trying to figure out the chaos is where Tim derives most of his pleasure and happiness from existing in the world.
Dolly LanzaDottie Herman