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Eyewitness Unreliability, Terry Nichols, and a Second Explosion
from Kump Joins Team 10 · #78
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4 minRay raises skepticism about eyewitness accounts of a second bomb blast and a mystery third man, while Tim runs through Terry Nichols's fate and other suspicious deaths tied to 9/11 skeptics like the flight instructor and Michael Hastings.
- 50:26Tim becomes skeptical of eyewitness testimony after lifeguard experiences where people's accounts of what happened were wildly inaccurate.
- 50:51Andrew Collins claimed a man followed him from Central Park threatening to kill him, but when Tim asked around, the guy just made one comment and left.
- 51:17When somebody reports hearing a second explosion or a third shooter, that's worth taking seriously as a potential lead.
- 51:59A CIA investigator who wrote books about 9/11 and believed Saudis were trained by the agency was found hanging himself along with his kids and dog.
- 52:23Michael Hastings had an article coming out on the CIA director when his car mysteriously blew up.
- 52:45When someone investigating government agencies dies in a suspicious accident, the default assumption should be that the official story is bullshit.
- 53:04Terry Nichols's brother came back from Vietnam with a heroin addiction and robbed some banks, putting him in the prison system.
- 53:15Terry Nichols's brother was beaten to death, sliced, stabbed, and the warden called it a suicide despite unclear circumstances.
- 53:32The theory is that Nichols's brother was killed by mistake—the killers may have confused him with someone else involved in the Elohim City circle connected to McVeigh.
Michael HastingsCIATim McVeighElohim City9/11 conspiracy theoriesBarry SealFBIAndrew Collins