Episode 66 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Weinstein Company Man
Oct 15, 2017 · 1:08:21 · 15 segments, 120 moments indexed
- 1 min
Show intro music and announcer bit before talk begins.
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- 0:00Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell intro with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump
- 0:20Tim welcomes listeners and introduces Ray Kump as co-host
- 2 min
Trying to Explain the Show to Advertisers
#Tim and Ray riff on how impossible it is to explain the podcast to press and advertisers, joking about being pedophile-cult vaudeville performers and Louis Gomez's line that they're 'the anchors after the world has ended.'
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- 0:50Tim pitches a vaudevillian act with his co-host involving shooting an apple out of his mouth, then immediately pivots to "Pedophile cult."
- 1:16The show is getting higher profile and people keep asking what it actually is.
- 1:42The Tim Dillon Show is not easy to explain without putting people into a mode of questioning.
- 2:04Louis Gomez's description: "You guys are like the anchors after the world has ended" — which doesn't exactly sell soft drinks.
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- 3 min
The Show's Real Subject: Power, Not Politics
#Tim lays out the guiding philosophy of the show — focusing on 'operators' who get things done rather than political debates — and revisits the Lou Pearlman blimp-hangar audition story as an example.
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- 2:21Tim describes the show as an apocalyptic news show, not a debate platform about issues of the day.
- 3:05The show differs from Rogan's format—instead of intellectuals discussing ideas, it focuses on operators who get things done in society.
- 3:35This description of 'operators' fits everyone from Lou Pearlman to George H.W. Bush, though at vastly different scales.
- 4:05Lou Pearlman episode haunts Tim because Pearlman ran a blimp business before holding boy band auditions in a blimp hangar.
- 4:31The image that disturbs him: a 13-year-old auditioning in front of a sweaty Pearlman while parents accept this as normal business.
- 4:43Tim connects the Lou Pearlman story to child trafficking in desperate areas, where parents themselves traffic their own children for survival.
- 5:07This is where the show's problems emerge when he tries explaining it—the conversation spirals into dark territory about exploitation and desperation.
- 4 min
Money, Sex, and Power as the Same Thing
#Tim argues that money and sex are ultimately about power, mocking Bill and Melinda Gates' philanthropy as 'fingers in the pussy of Africa,' then ties it to why the show fixates on real estate and expensive soup cans as windows into hidden power structures.
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- 5:37Most of the powerful people he discusses are smart but not intellectuals—they don't make money from writing or speaking.
- 6:39Money, sex, and power are all the same thing.
- 6:53He dismisses the idea that billionaires become altruistic, suggesting Bill Gates and Melinda's AIDS work is about gaining influence in Africa.
- 7:25Weaponized philanthropy, as described in Jay Mayer's Dark Money, allows the wealthy to pursue multiple objectives simultaneously.
- 7:51The show focuses on people playing video games at a high level of society, not on standard debates about gender, free speech, and immigration.
- 8:29Real estate is a passageway into understanding people's lives and uncovering who powerful individuals are.
- 8:57He applies the same real estate logic to expensive cans of soup, treating any luxury purchase as a window into larger systems.
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- 8 min
Harvey Weinstein and Hollywood's Sexual Economy
#A long discussion of the freshly-breaking Weinstein scandal as representative of Hollywood's economy of sexual currency, covering enablers, the 2013 Seth MacFarlane Oscars joke, Rose McGowan vs. Ben Affleck, and a mock ad-style bit about a 'complex robust sexual slavery network.'
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- 9:25Tim calls the Weinstein case a fascinating look into power and when it comes undone.
- 10:09Hollywood's economy is run by sexual currency—some illicit, some involving underage victims, all exploitative.
- 10:39Men get into entertainment like they get into the Catholic Church: because they know how it works and want access to desperation.
- 11:15Children suffer in Hollywood too, alongside women, and Weinstein had many enablers in both genders.
- 11:57Seth MacFarlane's 2013 Oscars joke about Harvey showed the industry already knew he was a lecherous pig.
- 12:34Being a gatekeeper with control over women who want stardom probably fed Weinstein's pathology.
- 12:57He likely got off on the fear itself—women faced a brutal dichotomy of compliance or career destruction.
- 13:59Tim discloses Harvey Weinstein is producing his upcoming special, calling him a brilliant producer despite everything.
- 14:17Matt Damon and Russell Crowe reportedly sent character vouchers for Weinstein when allegations were about to surface.
- 15:46The Weinstein scandal exposes a larger culture problem, but everyone shoehorns their political agenda into it.
- 16:12A complex, deep, robust sexual slavery and prostitution network in Hollywood doesn't build itself without serious money and power.
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- 5 min
Weinstein, Cover-Ups, and the Money Behind It
#They dig into why the Weinstein story took decades to surface, the financial incentives for cover-ups, comparisons to Bernard Kerik and the national security state, and how power structures outlive individual scandals.
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- 16:52Tim: settlements and money losses that would follow if Weinstein's full story came out.
- 17:18He avoids the word 'conspiracy' because it taints legitimate inquiry into topics.
- 17:51Tim distinguishes between donations to politicians and actual collusion in a power structure.
- 18:13The entire system won't protect one person if it jeopardizes the wider structure itself.
- 18:42Power structures outlive individuals—it's a firmament people pass through, not a conspiracy.
- 19:14Tim compares the situation to a motorcycle club where members protect the group but sell each other out if necessary.
- 19:38He expects the Weinstein story to develop further with more allegations and details emerging.
- 20:01Once fired from the Academy Awards, Weinstein is done—no second chances in that arena.
- 20:37The firing may have already accomplished the job of containing damage, preventing wider investigation into Hollywood's network of misconduct.
- 21:20Traditional Hollywood institutions like the LA Times showed less aggressive investigation than the New York Times and New Yorker.
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- 5 min
Clinton, Bilderberg, and the Debate Stage Accusers
#Discussion pivots to Bill Clinton's Arkansas years, brazenness of powerful men, Hillary's role discrediting his accusers, and the surreal moment of Clinton's accusers sitting in the audience during a presidential debate with Trump.
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- 22:27The Bush family and Clintons demonstrate meticulous care when breaking the law.
- 22:58Clinton's accusers weren't A-list actresses like Gwyneth Paltrow or Angelina Jolie—people who could credibly expose him.
- 23:27People with intelligence backgrounds like Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Alan Dulles run operations far more sophisticated than civilian criminals.
- 24:21Clinton attended Bilderberg a year before his election and made powerful friends who helped manipulate the media.
- 25:20Five of Bill Clinton's accusers sat in the audience during the Hillary-Trump presidential debate.
- 25:51Trump had to put Clinton's accusers front row—it was tactically necessary despite his own problems.
- 26:06Hillary Clinton actively tried to destroy her husband's accusers and delegitimize questions about his past.
Bill ClintonDonald TrumpHillary ClintonAlan DullesClinton familyDick CheneyDonald RumsfeldHarvey Weinstein+6 more
- 6 min
Mena, Arkansas and Barry Seal's CIA Drug Running
#Tim explains the background of the Tom Cruise movie American Made, the mysterious deaths tied to the Mena, Arkansas drug-trafficking story, the Boys on the Tracks case, and Robert Mercer's belief that the Clintons had opponents murdered.
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- 26:35Tom Cruise's American Made depicts CIA drug running supposedly connected to Barry Seal.
- 27:21Tim wonders whether Scientology has interest in showcasing America's drug operations through the film.
- 27:59Mena, Arkansas became a center of drug trafficking with alleged CIA involvement.
- 28:17Two boys who witnessed a drug drop in Mena were both murdered and left on train tracks.
- 28:47Tim's skeptical of the official story that the boys fell asleep on train tracks after smoking weed.
- 29:02Robert Mercer, a hedge fund billionaire who funded the alt-right, believes the Clintons ran a secret CIA drug scheme out of Mena Airport.
- 31:11Jane Mayer dismisses the Mena story as a dark fantasy from 90s conservative magazines, but Tim argues there's more to it than just Clinton connections.
- 31:42The Bushes were also connected to the Mena drug nexus, alongside BCCI and operations running from Florida.
- 32:07Multiple political factions converged around CIA drug running and heroin importation to fund intelligence operations.
Robert MercerBarry SealPhilip MarshallJane MayerThe Boys on the TracksAmerican SpectatorRenaissance TechnologiesBill Clinton+10 more
- 6 min
BCCI: The Largest Bank Fraud in History
#A detailed rundown of BCCI as a money-laundering and CIA-linked bank, the Pentagon's missing $8 trillion, and how such vast sums funnel into black budgets, real estate, and foreign despots.
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- 32:38BCCI was an international bank founded in 1972, registered in Luxembourg with head offices in Karachi and London, becoming the seventh largest bank in the world within a decade.
- 32:59Tim explains BCCI was used for money laundering, tax evasion, drug funding, and served as a conduit for CIA money flows.
- 33:29Pentagon has lost trillions of dollars, which Tim argues goes into banks, lending institutions, real estate, and the coffers of foreign and domestic despots.
- 33:55Tim discusses how conspiracy theories often begin as bullshit but get repeated as historical fact, using the Rothschild stories and anti-Semitic narratives of the 1920s and 30s as an example.
- 34:36Some black budget defense projects account for missing money, but institutionalized money laundering through funneling is the primary mechanism.
- 35:04Tim and his guest are both reading a book on BCCI and plan to do a full episode on it.
- 35:33Understanding financial crime forces people to confront what the media actually is and how it operates.
- 36:15Newspaper editors with CIA backgrounds like Ben Bradley control what stories get covered, and editorial-level censorship happens routinely without explanation.
- 37:14The public fixates on simple surface-level issues that everyone can argue about rather than understanding complex topics requiring research and background knowledge.
- 37:41Stephen Paddock's real estate and gambling activity suggests he may have been involved in arms dealing or money laundering through video poker, which is an effective laundering method.
- 38:08High-volume gamblers and Paddock's financial patterns raise questions about whether his wealth came purely from professional gambling and real estate.
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- 8 min
Journalism's Laziness and the New Pearl Harbor Rabbit Hole
#Tim argues media failures are more pack-mentality and laziness than pure conspiracy, cites Stephen Paddock's finances as an underexplored angle, and tells a long story about crashing at a friend's house in Massachusetts, eating bad eggs, and getting sucked into watching the 9/11 documentary New Pearl Harbor for hours.
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- 38:33Journalists' laziness and pack mentality create conspiracy theories rather than actual conspiracies or killed stories.
- 39:10Journalists who leave the mainstream start losing their interview skills and fade from public consciousness.
- 39:43Tim got interested in the New Pearl Harbor documentary while driving home to Long Island and initially watched it to prove it wrong.
- 40:21BCCI, the largest bank fraud in the world, is completely unknown to the public because labeling things as conspiracy shuts down inquiry.
- 41:10The New Pearl Harbor documentary is so well-made that you shouldn't be able to construct a conspiracy film that convincing about any event.
- 42:02Tim saw news of Ralphie May's death at 45 while eating an awful awful milkshake and chip witch at Newport Creamery, prompting a lifestyle reckoning.
- 43:22Friend made him eggs the next morning that were dry, over-peppered, and spread with Country Crock margarine instead of butter.
- 44:37The bacon was half burned and half raw, creating a situation so bad Tim considered calling Child Protective Services.
- 45:24Tim and his friend started watching New Pearl Harbor clips before a walk and got pulled into a four-hour rabbit hole on the couch.
- 45:45Watching the documentary in sections meant discussing each clip, causing hours to disappear while watching.
BCCIRalphie MayLoose Change (September 11 New Pearl Harbor)Nick BryantRuss Baker
- 7 min
Patriot Place, Raytheon, and Vigilant Guardian
#Riffing on a Raytheon-branded outlet mall near Gillette Stadium leads into Boston as a military-industrial hub, then into the Operation Vigilant Guardian war-game coincidence on 9/11 and the stalled refueling of intercept jets.
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- 45:53Every sign at Patriot Place is brought to you by Raytheon, a defense contractor.
- 46:10Ruby Tuesdays at the stadium no longer have waitresses; everyone orders on iPads.
- 46:38Boston is the apex of the military-industrial complex, with MIT, Harvard, and defense financing.
- 47:20Tim tries to make a joke about New York and finance that doesn't come off as anti-Semitic and decides there's no way to do it.
- 47:56On 9/11, NORAD was running a war game simulating planes being hijacked and flown into buildings at the exact moment the real attacks happened.
- 48:29Interceptor jets involved in the exercise had to be refueled and took hours to scramble for the actual hijacked planes.
- 49:00The 9/11 Commission included Thomas Kean, who investigated Iran-Contra, and Bush wanted Henry Kissinger as investigator before objecting to releasing his client list.
- 49:44Tim's not claiming to know what happened on 9/11, but the coincidences warrant investigation in a mature democracy.
- 50:13George H.W. Bush's son Neil was scheduled to have dinner with the Hinckley family on the night Reagan was shot by John Hinckley Jr.
- 52:27America has zero introspection about whether its leaders are actually more benevolent than those in Russia, Germany, or Arab dictatorships.
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- 6 min
Coincidences, Hinckley, and American Exceptionalism
#Tim connects the Reagan assassination attempt and the Bush/Hinckley family dinner coincidence to a broader point about Americans' blind faith that their power structures are more benevolent than Russia's or Germany's, then circles back to Weinstein and Hollywood's fake public image versus its 'emotional Ponzi scheme' reality for aspiring actors.
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- 54:14Hollywood is unique among major industries for having a public image drastically different from its actual reality.
- 55:12Much of Hollywood functions as a way to establish narratives about America and who we are, operating as an emotional Ponzi scheme where talented people work for free.
- 55:54Women pursuing stardom become targets for sexual exploitation, marginalized simply for wanting success in the industry.
- 56:29Actors and actresses give speeches about following dreams and equality while ignoring the dark underbelly and seedy realities of what you actually have to do to get ahead.
- 57:24Hollywood is run by corporate entities at best, or at worst by laundered foreign money being funneled through bond floats—not by a collective of artists like people believe.
- 58:03People move to LA because, as Patrice O'Neill said, once you're in it you can make two million a week or a month—and the type of person willing to tolerate exploitation for that money will keep their mouth shut.
- 58:35The average person sees the 1% who make it and dismisses the exploited 99% as expendable, thinking they should have stayed home instead of trying to be a star.
- 58:56People from your hometown resent you for leaving to pursue your dream, feeling like you thought you were better than them, so there's little sympathy when you get exploited.
- 59:09Now nobody wants to pay creators for anything—everyone expects content to be free while pushing subscription services and promo codes.
- 2 min
Tim explains the two real criteria for choosing show topics: material that alienates them from friends/family and has zero commercial viability, plugging the previous Mandalay Bay episode.
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- 59:25Tim announces they're wrapping up the episode and recommends listening to the previous Mandalay Ray episode about paddock conspiracy theories.
- 59:46Tim explains how they choose show topics: they select material based on two specific qualifications.
- 59:59Tim does a Harvey Weinstein impression, mimicking him trying to get someone into a storeroom and shower.
- 1:00:33The two criteria for material they discuss on the show: it has to marginalize them within their own community and distance them from family and friends.
- 1:00:48Tim adds the second qualification: the material has to have no real commercial viability.
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- 4 min
Weinstein Voicemail Bit and Nick Bryant Impression
#Ray does a Harvey Weinstein voicemail impression, followed by Tim doing a mock-drunk impression of author Nick Bryant discussing lower socioeconomic children and the Franklin scandal, riffing on chasing money trails.
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- 1:01:06Tim notes that journalists with book deals seem more credible despite being equally 'shot' as podcasters.
- 1:01:29Tim explains why they haven't done a 9-11 episode: the show assumes listeners are already on the same page, making guest researchers redundant.
- 1:02:01Guests need to bring unique conclusions, not just recite research Tim could read himself.
- 1:02:39Tim does Nick Bryant impression as an author who's written books on lower socioeconomic children and keeps trying to connect everything to pedophile cults.
- 1:03:14Nick Bryant character responds to being asked about money sources by rambling about hobos with bindles and poor kids.
- 1:03:57Tim critiques the Nick Bryant impression as just sounding like a drunk person, leading to the character defensively insisting he's an intellectual.
- 1:04:25Nick Bryant character brags about getting a show on Vice Sports and positive reviews, then admits most critics said he sounds like he's swallowing his tongue.
- 1:04:44Tim tells the character he actually sounds better in this impression than anywhere else.
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- 3 min
Tim runs through upcoming tour dates (Cleveland, Practical Jokers Cruise, NY Comedy Festival, Tampa, Boston), plugs his Vice Sports show, asks listeners to subscribe to Gas Digital Network and rate on iTunes, and previews wanting to cover Mena and get more guests.
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- 1:04:56Sign up for the Buzz Tour at timdillacomedy.com to get ticket info emailed directly.
- 1:05:27Tim's heading to Cleveland Wednesday and Sunday (11th and 15th), headlining and featuring for Michelle Wolf.
- 1:05:45Practical Jokers cruise November 1st through 5th with physical stunts planned for the tour.
- 1:05:59Pine Box Rock Shop this Saturday at eight, Cobra Club next Friday in Bushwick, plus Laugh Boston and Tampa stops.
- 1:06:38Vice Sports episodes featuring Mr. P, Randy Savage, and Yankees wife swapping now available on the platform.
- 1:06:58Subscribe to Gas Digital Network with promo code Hell for archives on Lou Pearlman, Alan Dulles, and Wendy Starling.
- 1:07:09If you can't afford Gas Digital, rate the show five stars on iTunes, subscribe, and share it with friends.
- 1:07:22Tim acknowledges today's episode touched on a lot of stuff that ultimately leads nowhere, but promises a focused one next week.
- 1:07:37Plan to have Mina back and collaborate with guests using a Google Doc approach for future episodes.
- 1:08:19Sign-off.
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