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Steelmanning the 9/11 and JFK False Flag Framework

from Mandalay Ray · #65

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2 min

Tim and Ray walk through the actual argument for 9/11 as a false flag (asbestos-filled towers, missing Pentagon trillions, pre-existing Afghanistan invasion plans) and JFK's assassination halting his Vietnam withdrawal and CIA-splintering plans, while noting nobody is actually coming for anyone's guns despite gun-rights paranoia.

In this bit7 moments
  • 9:04Why 9/11 fits a false flag framework: two towers full of asbestos that needed removal anyway, a trillion-dollar demolition operation.
  • 9:17Pentagon announces two trillion dollars missing, Rumsfeld trying to figure out where it went while the military is stuck in Cold War thinking.
  • 9:38Iraq war plans came in the summer before 9/11; if they wanted regime change, they didn't need to fake something to justify it.
  • 10:02Both 9/11 and JFK cases show the world changed drastically; without getting into either one, you could debate the necessity of those events.
  • 10:23Project for the New American Century explicitly stated absent a new Pearl Harbor, their plans weren't going to get done.
  • 10:38Kennedy was pursuing withdrawal from Vietnam and splintering the CIA into a thousand pieces before he was killed and those plans stopped dead.
  • 10:56Tim addresses the standard counterargument: people always say they're trying to get our guns, but nothing's happened since the Brady bill in 1992.
Mentioned here

9/11John F. KennedyPentagonProject for the New American CenturyDonald RumsfeldBrady BillCIA

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