Episode 53 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Babies in a Volcano
Jul 11, 2017 · 1:18:56 · 27 segments, 163 moments indexed
- 1 min
Opening music and title card before talk begins.
- 1 min
Dana's Ouster and the Nixon Comparison
#Tim and Ray discuss retiring the old show intro and joke about producer Dana being pushed out like a silent coup, comparing it to Nixon and Gerald Ford, with new producer Shannon taking over.
2moments
- 1:00Tim and guest discuss Dana's intro, saying it's outlived its usefulness
- 1:13Dana was removed from the show; they replaced her with Shannon
- 2 min
The Long Island Railroad and Adam Sandler Sighting
#Tim tells a story about a family on the Jamaica LIRR train, riffs on his dad explaining transvestites as a kid, and imagines a conductor snapping after a passenger brags about seeing Adam Sandler at the airport.
9moments
- 1:41Tim describes riding the Long Island Railroad from Jamaica, where families from South Carolina board heading into New York City.
- 1:53Nostalgia for when New York was wilder — Tim recalls transvestites fighting in the Village when he was a kid.
- 2:16His father called them 'shims' thinking he was being progressive without realizing the term itself.
- 2:31A South Carolina father tells the conductor he saw Adam Sandler at the airport from Saturday Night Live.
- 2:47Tim fantasizes about the conductor shooting the father for making such a mundane observation.
- 3:03The sighting genuinely cheered up the South Carolina father, which frustrates Tim.
- 3:14Tim role-plays what would happen if someone actually saw him in the airport — they'd just walk by without acknowledging him.
- 3:28He expresses feeling insignificant compared to Adam Sandler in this hypothetical encounter.
- 3:39Tim transitions to confessing something he's actually ashamed of.
- 2 min
Pointing Out the Curb Your Enthusiasm Guy
#Tim confesses to an embarrassing moment as a young debater in California when he pointed out a recurring Curb Your Enthusiasm actor in a mall and got shut down, leading him to now avoid ever approaching celebrities.
3moments
- 3:42Tim recalls trying to remember a short recurring character from Curb Your Enthusiasm.
- 4:10He pointed out the actor in a mall while drunk at a debate tournament in California, and the guy rolled his eyes at him.
- 4:55Tim felt immediately ashamed and realized he shouldn't have done it, so he's avoided approaching celebrities ever since.
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- 2 min
Recapping the Joe Santagato Interview
#Tim and Ray debrief on their recent episode with YouTube star Joe Santagato, joking about his physique, awkwardness during the interview, and doing a bit where they impersonate his shallow, anxious YouTube persona.
7moments
- 5:17Tim recaps the Joe Santagato interview as a guest who needed work, running an hour and a half.
- 5:53Tim describes the interview dynamic: imagining Joe silently swaddling his face while he wears headphones trying to grab his car.
- 6:13Tim does a bit performing both sides—himself angry about Puerto Ricans, Joe explaining he just likes making videos and has anxiety.
- 6:58The interview was boring; Tim tried to do the right thing by being respectful to a sweet, harmless guy.
- 7:09Ray isn't in love with Joe because the guy lacks layers and depth—he's just straightforward, not dark or complicated.
- 7:22Tim wishes YouTube stars came in self-aware and jaded, like the guy who died in the bathtub during the French Revolution.
- 7:33Tim's ideal guest would be a real self-aware YouTube star who walked in saying he hates what he does and wants to be a French Revolution guy.
- 1 min
Marat, the Guy Who Died in the Bathtub
#Tim riffs on wanting to be the propagandist Marat for YouTube stars, and Shannon impressively finds Marat's name from a vague clue about dying in a bathtub during the French Revolution.
4moments
- 7:45Tim asks if you know who Marat was — the guy who died in the bathtub.
- 8:13Tim bets Shannon would've guessed something completely wrong, like oil of Olay, if given 45 minutes.
- 8:35Tim imagines himself as Marat for YouTube stars — writing propaganda, then getting his throat slit in a bathtub.
- 8:48Liberal arts degrees are fake; Tim doubts even Harvard graduates actually know who Marat is.
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- 2 min
Analyzing Joe Santagato's Mad Libs Empire
#They discuss how Joe Santagato built a following doing silly Mad Libs videos, watch a clip, and joke about the ethics/logistics of kidnapping and robbing him instead of appreciating his support.
6moments
- 9:00Tim praises Shannon for coming up with something impressive on the spot.
- 9:22Tim describes giving Shannon deliberately obscure or absurd search challenges, like 'a kid who got fucked in Arizona.'
- 9:46Joe Santagato does Mad Libs and has big social media numbers, though Tim questions whether that makes him a wonderkind at 26.
- 10:21Tim argues Joe's content is schlocky but acknowledges he's got impressive numbers doing what he does.
- 10:37Tim reflects that a guy like Joe would have ended up in gay porn or construction work in an earlier era.
- 10:57What's actually impressive about talking to Joe is something Tim clarifies, noting it won't sound like a compliment.
- 4 min
The Vonnegut Sociopath Theory and Prep for a Dirty Mad Libs Bit
#Tim theorizes that successful people are 'surface' people who don't overthink, citing Vonnegut's 'A Man Without a Country,' then pivots to plotting a pedophile-themed Mad Libs parody with Shannon and Ray as a joke about internet fame.
9moments
- 11:13Successful people are generally surface people who don't question what they're doing with any degree of regularity.
- 11:37Kurt Vonnegut said the country is run by sociopaths because they just go do it.
- 11:59Joe Santagata created an empire through silly Mad Libs videos, and now Tim and Ray are trying to become Vine stars by doing something similar.
- 12:42Santagata's Mad Libs game requires him to hold water in his mouth without laughing while filling in parts of speech.
- 13:19Tim marvels at how much money Santagata makes from these videos, calling him a sweet guy.
- 13:37Discussion of a hypothetical ATM robbery requiring someone to hold a victim for weeks, since ATMs have a $2000 limit.
- 14:02Tim and Ray plan to create a pedophile Mad Libs after Santagata tweeted out their episode.
- 14:19Tim insists the pedophile Mad Libs is a place for everyone on all sides of the issue.
- 14:37They're about to do a Mad Libs with Shannon, their producer, starting with one titled Summer Trip.
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- 5 min
The Colonel's Rape Dungeon Mad Libs
#The trio perform a dark, filthy Mad Libs bit live on air, filling in words like 'speculum,' 'curvaceous,' and 'the Colonel's rape dungeon' for a children's 'Summer Trip' template, riffing on Boystown and grooming references.
10moments
- 14:57Tim and guest begin Mad Libs exercise with children's version, aiming to create viral content.
- 15:23Reference to 'the Colonel's rape dungeon' — a reference to a real Colorado house incident involving children.
- 15:56Debate over word selection: Tim rejects overly obscure or inappropriate adjectives, pushing back on 'bulging cock.'
- 16:26Guest suggests 'speculums' as a plural noun; Tim questions the meaning but guest insists it's a real gynecological instrument.
- 16:53Guest invents or describes a 'smacapala' — a fictional or misremembered device involving a tube going to the mouth.
- 17:16'Curvaceous' chosen as adjective; Tim pivots to a Lane Bryant catalog joke about women's sizes.
- 17:47Guest selects 'Boy's Town' as the location, drawing from a well-known institution for at-risk youth.
- 18:12Tim expresses frustration at the chaotic word-gathering process, comparing it to 'Mad Libs war and peace.'
- 19:07Shannon prepares to read the completed Mad Libs story in a 'booming voice' for comedic effect.
- 19:24Final Mad Libs story read aloud: a bizarre narrative about visiting 'the Colonel's rape dungeon' with nonsensical word substitutions throughout.
- 3 min
Snow Johnny and the 666 Dwarfs Mad Libs
#They do a second Mad Libs parody, a twisted fairy tale version featuring 'Snow Johnny,' Denny's, fisting, and spiders, with Tim mocking how none of it is landing compared to Santagato's success.
5moments
- 20:18Tim and guest play Mad Libs, filling in adjectives and nouns for a fairy tale story.
- 21:11Both players pick Denny's for consecutive place prompts, prompting Tim to blame phoning it in for their lack of money.
- 22:19The completed Mad Libs story reads: 'A new and corpulent fairy princess movie is coming out soon. It will be about Snow Johnny and the 666 dwarfs.'
- 22:37Tim interrupts the story to ask how the guest makes a million dollars a year with the water-in-mouth spitting bit.
- 23:00Tim refuses to read the rest of the story, calling the guest a fat slob and objecting to doing another Mad Libs round.
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The Big Dick Theory of Social Media Success
#Tim theorizes that social media success requires having a great penis and not caring about anything, leading into an absurd riff about serial killers severing and using victims' penises, and pitching it as a bit for a comedy general meeting.
7moments
- 23:32Tim's theory: successful social media figures have big dicks, which affects their posture and makes them not care about anything they do.
- 23:57Having a big dick means you fuck more and aren't trying to be good at anything.
- 24:10Most of these guys don't even fuck that much; they just love their own cock and play with it all day.
- 24:21Hypothetical: if you sewed someone else's dick onto your own body, it wouldn't be gay.
- 24:39Tim asks whether any serial killers have ever cut someone's dick off and fucked themselves with it.
- 25:04Tim pitches a general meeting bit: asking if a serial killer has ever cut off and used someone's penis while it was still hard.
- 25:24Follow-up premise: do the same bit next week but with cunts instead.
- 1 min
Tim and Ray discuss a New York Times report on Pence courting donors, speculating whether Trump might get impeached or simply not run again, and whether Trump only really enjoys campaigning.
4moments
- 25:45Trump's wheels have been coming off the train for a while.
- 26:13Tim explains this could mean keeping donors happy with the agenda or positioning for Trump's next run.
- 26:41Trump won't stop running because campaigning is the only thing he did well in office.
- 26:57Tim suggests America should have a figurehead role for someone who just campaigns constantly.
- 3 min
Trump as Hype Man and the Mika Brzezinski Tweet
#They discuss Trump's role as a destructive 'hype man' rather than policy-maker, his impulsive tweeting including the infamous attack on Mika Brzezinski's facelift, and pivot into geopolitics around Syria and Putin's pipeline.
7moments
- 27:18Trump isn't really a hype man, he's just good at destroying people.
- 27:38Tim on not being on Twitter constantly: doesn't mean he's comfortable with the direction things are heading.
- 27:58Tim criticizes character assassinating a morning show host in tweets, says policy tweets need more thought.
- 28:29The Brzezinski tweet: Trump attacking her for having surgery and saying she was bleeding from a shirt.
- 28:45Trump claims credit for a ceasefire with Putin, but Tim questions what actually was accomplished.
- 29:14Tim's proposal: let Putin have his pipeline but otherwise clean up Syria.
- 29:41Tim argues Putin is smart and that America's refusal to negotiate or concede anything is counterproductive.
- 2 min
Poker Diplomacy with Russia and China
#Using a poker metaphor, Tim and Ray discuss America's declining leverage against countries like Russia, arguing the US can still beat smaller countries but risks catastrophic losses fighting larger powers.
5moments
- 30:43Tim explains the poker problem: American diplomats don't understand bluffing or chip stack dynamics in international relations.
- 31:07With eight times more chips than everyone else, you can bully people around the table, but America no longer has that advantage.
- 31:23The U.S. can squash North Korea or smaller countries, but can't squash Russia without losing half the country in the attempt.
- 31:43Tim argues for engagement with all countries rather than a dismissive "fuck them" approach, even though America could theoretically beat anyone.
- 31:55In a war with a major power, America would lose Denny's, strip malls, and beach clubs rather than winning decisively.
- 6 min
Black Ops, MK Ultra, and Seymour Hersh's Claims
#Tim goes deep on alleged black-ops psychological operations, citing Seymour Hersh's claims about videotapes of children being raped in front of parents to extract secrets, and questions what happens to operatives capable of such acts.
9moments
- 32:52Tim describes a hypothetical party moment where someone brings up American Idol and he wants to interject with the reality of CIA torture.
- 33:18Seymour Hersh's claim: a videotape exists of children being raped in front of their parents to coerce secrets from them.
- 33:47Tim argues that if a government is going to commit atrocities, it needs an organized group willing to do them and justify it to themselves.
- 34:27Problem with conspiracy theorists: they believe anything, which isn't good, but real black ops atrocities make it hard to dismiss the truly unbelievable claims.
- 35:00Tim wonders how people get recruited into black ops work where they're willing to justify extreme violence.
- 35:42Neoconservative ideologues like Wolfowitz and Pearl justify total war and killing civilians for geopolitical goals.
- 36:19Tim notes Brent Scowcroft was picked to run Iraq War planning because he doesn't like things when they get rough.
- 36:56Some black ops operatives are sociopaths who get off on violence and power, beyond just following orders.
- 37:24The torture operative who flew to witness Khalid Sheikh Muhammad's waterboarding didn't need to be there—suggests she was getting off on the violence itself.
- 8 min
Zero Dark Thirty's Torture Queen and the Alex Station CIA Failures
#Tim speculates about the real-life CIA figure behind Zero Dark Thirty's lead character, her marriage to an anti-Israel CIA analyst, and the Alex Station unit's failures to stop Bin Laden, wondering if incompetence gets rewarded in intelligence work.
11moments
- 38:10Tim describes Michael Schur as ideological and claims he was forced into the CIA because of his anti-Israel views.
- 38:41Alex Station supposedly got bin Laden eventually, but Tim questions how real the whole operation actually was.
- 39:30Alex Station failed to share pertinent information with other government members, yet many involved agents got promoted anyway.
- 40:11These CIA guys are like babies in a volcano—they make mistakes but become hardened operatives who will get their hands dirty.
- 41:21The military had a straight-up Satanist and defended him, saying he's open about it and their guy.
- 42:32When diving into government operations like Project Monarch—supposedly the continuation of MK Ultra—the mind control and assassin stuff seems crazy.
- 43:10Ruby just walks into a bunch of cops and shoots Oswald right off, which is very weird given the circumstances.
- 43:53The CIA doesn't need to create assassins since enough genuine ones exist, but some perpetrators' actions are so specific they're hard to explain.
- 44:31Crazy people don't usually write things to the stage of actually killing anyone; the Secret Service tracks obsessives but real operatives are different.
- 45:04A lot of mass shooting perpetrators tried to get into the military first, raising questions about whether they entered secondary government programs instead.
- 45:26Tim mentions Dave McGowan, a writer who died of cancer in his 50s and wrote books about these kinds of conspiracies.
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- 4 min
Dave McGowan's Laurel Canyon Conspiracy Theory
#Tim describes the late Dave McGowan's book 'Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon,' which theorizes that the CIA cultivated the Laurel Canyon music scene (Doors, Zappa, Crosby Stills Nash) to discredit the anti-war movement with drugged-out hippie musicians whose parents had military-industrial ties.
9moments
- 45:48Tim begins discussing Dave McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon and its central thesis about Laurel Canyon as a music scene.
- 46:33McGowan's argument: Laurel Canyon was located near Lookout Mountain Laboratories, a covert federal film production facility.
- 47:10Musicians in the scene had suspicious backgrounds—Jim Morrison's father was on a ship involved with the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
- 47:43Many of these musicians came from wealthy families with military and intelligence connections, including David Crosby and Frank Zappa.
- 47:57McGowan's core thesis: the CIA may have deliberately shaped the hippie and drug movements to discredit the anti-war movement as degenerate rather than political.
- 48:40Tim jokes about the absurdity of CIA officials like Allen Dulles directing musicians and referencing Doors lyrics.
- 49:06Tim pushes back on the theory by pointing out that in post-World War II America, most decent jobs were in the military or defense industry anyway.
- 49:28McGowan's book also covers Charlie Manson's proximity to celebrities and the weird cults operating in Los Angeles at the time.
- 49:42The acid fueling the scene came from government sources, which makes some of McGowan's skepticism seem more credible.
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- 1 min
Woodstock as MK Ultra Experiment
#Continuing the McGowan discussion, Tim and Ray debate the claim that Woodstock itself was a mass mind-control experiment, pushing back that it just sounds like a normal concert.
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- 50:13Tim's guest claims Woodstock was a big MK Ultra experiment.
- 50:28The guest suggests the CIA people running this might not be monsters.
- 50:41Tim riffs on the logic: 'We'll monitor people on acid at Woodstock, I'm fucking just don't have to rape and kill him. No, not today. We'll do it tomorrow.'
- 50:55Tim pivots to a sober question: is there enough random violence to keep people in the country in line, or does it help the powers that be?
- 6 min
Are Mass Shooters Sleeper Agents? James Holmes and MK Ultra
#Tim and Ray speculate whether mass shooters like James Holmes are activated sleeper assets from government mind-control programs, discussing the JFK/Sirhan Sirhan and Reagan/Hinckley assassinations and whether random violence keeps the population docile.
10moments
- 51:46Mass shooters often have weird connections to experiments on college campuses or work for defense contractors.
- 52:25Tim explains how creating chaos and dust allows agencies to move through confusion and cover their tracks.
- 52:54The question of whether mass shooting incidents serve a government purpose or are just blowback from general surveillance programs.
- 53:35Some mass shooters might be intelligence operatives who broke off the reservation rather than government sleeper agents.
- 54:04James Holmes as a potential sleeper cell activated from an 80s or 90s government program designed to test mind control.
- 54:30The theory that subjects like Holmes undergo drugs and tests to create the perfect controlled operative or mind-wiped killer.
- 54:57MK Ultra provides the historical precedent for understanding modern mass shooting theories.
- 55:10The more likely model is kidnapping, drugging, and immediate deployment rather than dormant sleeper activation years later.
- 55:31Many mass shooters act completely irrational in ways inconsistent with their own histories and self-preservation.
- 56:08If these were planned operations, they could be executed with less exposure and higher casualty counts than actual mass shootings demonstrate.
- 1 min
Son of Sam and Serial Killer Networks
#Tim floats the theory (attributed to a writer named Baker) that David Berkowitz/Son of Sam operated within a larger group of killers rather than alone, admitting he hasn't verified the research.
1moment
- 56:49Tim wonders why Joe Sanagato has a following while he doesn't
- 2 min
Tim introduces the sponsor Flapjacked, an instant high-protein muffin mix he tried that morning, describing how you add water and microwave it, while riffing about his roommate Ray's messy apartment and a sober-companion friend.
5moments
- 57:05Tim wonders who is actually listening to the show despite their decent numbers.
- 57:20Tim introduces Flapjacked, a high-protein instant muffin mix with probiotics that you microwave.
- 57:49He ate one today and questions whether it could actually be healthy.
- 58:24Tim tries to get the Flapjacked website and social media information on air.
- 58:35He enthusiastically endorses the product as phenomenal and begins describing how to prepare it.
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- 3 min
The group reads the Flapjacked ingredient and nutrition label live, debating whether the sugar and carb content is actually healthy, while Tim mocks Ray's carrot-stick breakfast habits.
8moments
- 58:49Tim describes how to make a Flapjacked muffin: add water, stir, microwave for a minute.
- 59:17His roommate Ray had one of the muffins left on the table, courtesy of a woman who visits regularly.
- 59:37Tim notes that the woman visiting doesn't mind the filthy conditions of their apartment.
- 1:00:02Women who can tolerate filth must be sociopaths or have specific psychological traits, Tim suggests.
- 1:00:37The bathroom contains hair dye and various debris, creating an objectively disgusting living space.
- 1:01:05The woman who visits Ray is actually a sober companion—someone paid by rich clients to prevent them from using drugs.
- 1:01:31Tim argues that needing a sober companion means you're not actually doing well in life.
- 1:01:49Sober companions supposedly have sex with their wealthy clients as part of the arrangement, according to Tim.
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- 1 min
Choosing an Assassin and the Sirhan Sirhan Recruitment Question
#Returning to the mind-control riff, Tim jokes about how the government would choose a patsy like Sirhan Sirhan, and whether nerdy kids like himself would be deemed unreliable for assassination programs.
3moments
- 1:02:28Many serial killers later found out to be part of larger networks rather than acting alone
- 1:03:03Tim brings up David Berkowitz and the theory that Son of Sam was part of a three to four person group
- 1:03:19The claim involves a larger network choosing victims and actually carrying out the killings
- 6 min
Do the Bushes Sleep at Night? The Nixon Movie and Poppy Bush Theory
#Tim wonders whether powerful sociopaths like the Bush family are tortured by their actions or totally at peace, referencing Oliver Stone's Nixon and floating the theory that having H.W. Bush as president may have given the intelligence establishment their most direct access to power ever.
6moments
- 1:05:38Tim argues that eating a handful of almonds for breakfast won't keep you full, but a guest insists it trains your metabolism to wait an hour before eating again.
- 1:06:07Guest points out Tim is giving weight loss advice while being morbidly obese, comparing him to Jabba the Hutt.
- 1:07:18Tim shifts to MK-Ultra: how do you choose candidates like Sirhan Sirhan for assassination programs—just pick loners from high school records?
- 1:07:54Tim wonders how most people sleep at night knowing the government tried to brainwash citizens into assassins, while he himself eats add-water muffins and drinks soda.
- 1:08:19How does the Bush family handle the truth about what they do—are they actual sociopaths, or do they rationalize it as necessary for the greater good?
- 1:09:04Bush family doesn't seem tortured by their actions; they live comfortably in old age, and George Bush Senior even showed up to the Super Bowl happy.
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- 3 min
Wrap-Up: Booking Guests and Mocking Simulation Theory
#Tim discusses trying to book Seymour Hersh and Nick Bostrom, dismisses simulation theory and quantum physics speculation as unscientific 'science fiction,' and jokes about Elon Musk.
7moments
- 1:09:45Russ Biggers argued that H.W. Bush's presidency gave the deep state its closest access to power, with one of their own operators in the Oval Office.
- 1:10:18Tim wonders if that total success in placing Bush made them reconsider whether the assassination approach was still necessary.
- 1:10:33Bush was a skilled operator who maneuvered himself into position, but he couldn't sell his agenda the way a politician needs to.
- 1:10:58Planning to book Slapjack and other guests for upcoming episodes, including potential interviews about taxes and politics.
- 1:11:30Tim is trying to get Seymour Hersh on the show, unsure whether the journalist still lives in America or stays mostly in Paris.
- 1:11:50Attempted to book Nick Bostrom for a simulation theory episode but decided the topic was too lofty for the show.
- 1:12:00Tim dismisses Bostrom's simulation theory argument as equivalent to a cart driving a horse—circular nonsense.
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- 4 min
Tim runs through upcoming tour dates including the NYC double-decker bus tour, Chicago, Wilmington, Mohegan Sun, and DC, plus social media handles and the mysterious upcoming 'Guinea Pig' project.
8moments
- 1:12:20Tim was editing science content this week and watched researchers test white cave slime with a spectrometer to see how acid reacts to it.
- 1:12:40Problem with simulation theory: quantum physics is just speculative science fiction, not based on real hard data.
- 1:13:00Tim suggests his criticism of Elon Musk will definitely change Musk's funding decisions.
- 1:13:29Tour announcement: double-decker bus in Manhattan covering MK Ultra, real estate, and wealthy neighborhoods, 55 seats that sell out quickly.
- 1:14:19Sign up at timdilloncomedy.com to get notified an hour before general ticket sale, with possible 24-hour advance notice.
- 1:14:56Chicago shows July 19-22 at Zany's downtown.
- 1:15:11Dead Crow Comedy Club in Wilmington, North Carolina coming up.
- 1:15:34Follow Tim on Instagram and Twitter as Tim Dillon, Facebook as Tim J. Dylan.
- 3 min
Butchering 'Let It Go' to Spite His Cousin
#Tim and Ray close the show by badly singing Frozen's 'Let It Go,' with Tim explaining he's needling his EGOT-winning cousin who co-wrote the song.
4moments
- 1:17:00Tim reveals he's trying to ruin his cousin's career by butchering 'Let It Go,' a song his cousin wrote as the youngest EGOT winner.
- 1:17:29Tim's intentionally off-key rendition of the opening verse, deliberately mangling the melody.
- 1:18:03The chorus devolves as Tim repeats 'Let it go' in an absurdly exaggerated way to wreck the song.
- 1:18:21Tim claims he's tone deaf while Shannon insists he'd be fine if he actually tried to sing it properly.
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