Interview · moment 17 of 22
The Fireman Story and the Honesty of Paid Discretion
from Seeking Arrangements (with Wendi Starling) · #47
Audio-only archive episode — no video to seek.
6 minGuest
Tim shares a personal story about paying a closeted-era hookup with a fireman trainee for discretion, leading into a discussion with Wendy about how straightforward monetary arrangements compare to the games played by women chasing rich husbands on the Upper East Side, and the double standard/backlash women face for it.
- 50:03Tim recounts meeting a fireman trainee in a cheap hourly hotel, paying him $100, and the guy insisting he wasn't gay before anything happened.
- 50:29Financial desperation may push people into transactional sexual situations they wouldn't otherwise consider.
- 50:57Discretion is a major reason people seek paid arrangements rather than navigating the social complications of conventional dating.
- 52:16The discretion involved in paid arrangements includes not being bothered at odd hours and understanding the terms upfront.
- 53:51Tim weighs in on a friend who's a sex addict, fucking five or six girls simultaneously while wanting to become a father.
- 54:37The friend should not have a kid if he's incapable of monogamy and continues cycling through drugs, sex, and threesomes.
- 54:57Tim refuses to entertain the idea that someone juggling multiple partners and addictions would be a good father, calling it wrong.
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