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Bernie Madoff's Class in Defeat (Wizard of Lies)
from Fuck Gary Vee · #46
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4 minTim discusses HBO's Wizard of Lies documentary, praising Bernie Madoff's stoic acceptance of his downfall compared to fugitives like Whitey Bulger, discusses the 2008 collapse timeline, and mocks the documentary's title.
- 0:39Tim watched Wizard of Lies, the HBO Bernie Madoff documentary.
- 1:10Tim is struck by Madoff's class—he didn't run, didn't lie, didn't blame others when caught.
- 1:31Madoff took full responsibility and said 'this is me and me alone' instead of trying to take anyone down.
- 1:57Tim argues society should give Madoff credit for knowing when the jig was up and not fleeing like Whitey Bulger.
- 2:35The world economy was collapsing and people wanted their money back—Madoff knew the writing was on the wall.
- 2:50When asked what he thought would happen, Madoff said he thought the whole world would end.
- 3:08Tim sees logic in Madoff's thinking: he believed the world would collapse and he'd never have to come clean.
- 3:56Tim questions who at HBO decided 'Wizard of Lies' was a good title for the documentary.
- 4:17Ray confused Wizard of Lies with Wizard of Oz before the show started.