Interview · moment 8 of 14
The Muslim Ban Semantics and No Borders No Nation Chants
from Torching Bridges (with David Angelo) · #31
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7 minGuest
They debate whether Trump's travel ban is technically a 'Muslim ban,' discuss the no-fly list precedent under Obama and John Lewis, terrorism statistics versus Kim Kardashian's toddler-gun tweet, and open-borders protest chants.
- 27:22The no-fly list affects American citizens who are predominantly Muslim, yet there's no outcry because it's on the liberal agenda.
- 28:13Tim pushes back on claims the executive order was sloppy, asking what specifically was changed and challenging news hysteria versus the actual order.
- 29:14Calling it a Muslim ban is semantics—the actual policy can't be described that way when you look at what the executive order says.
- 29:29Kim Kardashian's tweet claiming armed toddlers kill more people than terrorism is completely bullshit and represents madness in the debate.
- 30:01Starting terrorism statistics on 9-12 instead of 9-11 is a trick—3,500 people didn't just stop mattering the next day.
- 30:38Since 9-11 there haven't been large-scale terror attacks, and the supposedly thwarted attacks seem like weird FBI sting operations.
- 31:18Most guys caught in terror plots are already surveilled by FBI—so why does stuff slip through when 22 intelligence agencies are involved?
- 32:20You can't deny terrorism is real and then debate Trump on the travel ban; you have to acknowledge the threat to have a serious conversation.
- 33:04The Bush administration used war powers and color-coded threat systems to expand executive power under the guise of fighting terrorism.
- 33:58Countries are actually at war with the U.S.—we're droning Yemen and Libya—so blaming a travel ban for radicalization while bombing them is absurd.
- 34:25MSNBC and Rachel Maddow are pushing for war with Russia while simultaneously criticizing Trump's foreign policy, which is madness.
John LewisKim KardashianRachel Maddow