Interview · moment 10 of 20
Dulles's Sociopathy and Cold Family Life
from Slumbering Herds of Cattle · #12
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2 minGuest
Talbot recounts the story of young Allen Dulles watching his sister nearly drown without acting, and describes testimony from his daughter and wife about his emotional coldness and need for total control over women in his life.
- 27:43Young Dulles watched his sister drown in Lake Ontario without intervening, despite being a strong swimmer, until his mother rescued her.
- 28:10Tim argues that anyone reaching the top of the national security system ordering daily killings exists on a spectrum of psychopathology, with Dulles at the far end.
- 28:54Dulles's daughter, a retired Jungian therapist, describes growing up feeling like a guest in her own home, with her father showing no interest in grades or achievements.
- 29:27His wife's diaries reveal she was a sensitive artistic woman who spent her entire life with a man who took no interest in her whatsoever.
- 29:47Dulles viewed people as a chessboard to control, particularly the women in his life, sharing this outlook with his brother John Foster.